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Hello,

I am having a Tuffshed building built on some property for my recording gear. I am contemplating a building 20′-30′ wide, 30′-40′ long, and high ceiling.

My question for the pros concerns the ceiling height. The standard sidewall height on these buildings in 8’1″, but it can be increased to 13’1″ [possibley more] in 1′ increments. Additionally, there are a couple of different roof styles available. There is a Gambrel [barn style] roof, and a regular Gable roof. I’m not having a flat ceiling put in under the roof, so the ceiling will vault and track the roof style, probably with scissor trusses. It will just be a shell initially [only siding, no interior drywall or anything like that]. A door, and probably one window. I think I will use a mini-split for A/C and heat.

The Gambrel roof naturally adds a lot of height and space. The Gable roof less so. However, while the Gambrel does extend the height a lot [7 or 8 feet], it also narrows the width slightly at the outset, and then more so at the “hip” that extends to the ridge of the roof. The Gable roof does add some height, but it narrows the width way more than the Gambrel.

The Gambrel roof is a lot more expensive, but so is adding additional height to the sidewalls.

I am trying to decide whether to choose the Gambrel roof and not extend the sidewalls much, if at all, or just extend the sidewalls straight up 5 feet or so and use the Gable roof.

Hopefully some studio design pros will give me their opinions on this issue.

I am not needing to do isolation in this project, but I will probably get someone in to measure and do treatment once the space is built. My plan is to make the space big enough so that small room acoustics issues are not a problem [or much of one] .

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A, An ideal ceiling height for control or mix room is 14′. A good width would be 20′ and try to get 31 – 33′ on length.

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Dennis Foley said
A, An ideal ceiling height for control or mix room is 14′. A good width would be 20′ and try to get 31 – 33′ on length.  

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Dennis Foley said
A, An ideal ceiling height for control or mix room is 14′. A good width would be 20′ and try to get 31 – 33′ on length.  

Hi Dennis,

So, the configurator on their website allows up to a 5′ extension of the standard 8’1″ sidewall height. That would be 13’1″. BUT, either the Gambrel roof or the Gable roof will also add some height, it just would not be straight up on the sides. The Gambrel roof adds a lot of height, actually.

The question was whether it is better to lengthen the sidewalls to get additional height, or just use the height provided by the Gambrel roof? Do you have an opinion on that? Their would be scissor trusses probably every couple of feet up in the rafters, but I don’t know that they would really be in the way of anything.

So does the fact that the Gambrel [barn style] roof narrows slightly as it goes up [and eventually comes to a peak] make the additional height “not so good” or is it pretty much as good as having the higher sidewalls?

I’m trying to frame this generally so we don’t get in the weeds.

As to the dimensions you suggested, are you thinking in terms of modal response or otherwise? It was my understanding that a room this size is kind of out of the domain of most of the standing wave issues and so forth that plague smaller rooms.

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A, A 13′ height is workable. The angled side walls will not be an issue. All rooms require low-frequency management. The goal is to select the correct size/volume to match the usage.

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Dennis Foley said
A, A 13′ height is workable. The angled side walls will not be an issue. All rooms require low-frequency management. The goal is to select the correct size/volume to match the usage.  

Well, to be clear, the sidewalls are not angled. They would go straight up to a height of 8’1″. That height can be extended in 1′ increments by up to at least 5 feet. Where the angled walls come in is in the roof area. Its an open roof [so, essentially, a vaulted ceiling]. So I am asking if the additional height provided by the Gambrel roof area, with its angled walls, is significantly different than just adding a few feet to the actual [non-angled] sidewalls?

Also, I’m going to have to have space for a small kitchen, bathroom, sink, and I’m considering plumbing it for a jacuzzi tub. I was thinking of putting all that stuff at the entrance to the room and maybe walling just that much off from the rest of the space. Sound workable?

I don’t seem to be able to edit any of the posts. The edit function doesn’t work for some reason. Also, is there a way to upload diagrams or any other type of files?

Thanks for your responses and help.

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A, Go to this link and include your photos with your room data. https://www.acousticfields.com…..-analysis/

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Dennis Foley said
A, Go to this link and include your photos with your room data. https://www.acousticfields.com…..lysis/  

I don’t think the form submission is called for at this time since I am trying to decide on the construction. I was just going to upload a diagram / drawing of the optional roof / ceiling structures so people could grasp the question better. Thanks.

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